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Flawless

Lostroh maintains technically perfect form for first three rounds

LAS VEGAS (November 2, 2009) - If you’re new to the PBR and you’re unsure of what a perfect bull rider looks like, take a look at Kody Lostroh.

“To me, as far as style, form and mechanics, I don’t think there’s anybody right now that is more perfect than Kody Lostroh,” said Ty Murray, early Monday morning in a daily Podcast he’s posting throughout the World Finals. “I don’t think there’s anybody really even close. He’s just flawless.”

After three rounds in Las Vegas, the 24-year-old Lostroh is one of only four riders who are three-for-three. More importantly, in the opening weekend of a weeklong event, he managed to extend his overall lead in the world standings.

Following the conclusion of the Built Ford Tough Series regular season, he had a 294.75-point lead over Guilherme Marchi, who surprisingly has yet to make the whistle and is now 983 points behind.

And in spite of the ever-surging J.B. Mauney, who has managed to go from 785 points off the lead to just 429.25 back, Lostroh has been equally as good. Check that, great.

In the opening round, he drew Red Kat and managed 84 points on a bull that was out-of-time, hard-to-ride and in past attempts might have gotten Lostroh on the ground.

He followed that up with an 88.25 outing on Lone Star, and then an impressive third-round 91-point effort on Copp Hou.

Murray pointed out that Lostroh and Mauney are at the top of their game, and “couldn’t have been any better.”

With five rounds remaining, there is no reason to think they won’t continue battling one another round for round.

“I’m so happy to see that,” Murray said. “I wish Guilherme was at 100 percent on his game.”

After injuring his elbow earlier this season and missing one event – Worcester, Mass. – the question was whether Lostroh’s season was over. Lostroh, who at the time had three event wins, answered the critics by winning two more events (Tulsa, Okla. and Ontario, Calif.).

He was atop the world standings following the last 20 events of the season, and a total of 24 of 31 events.

“I think he showed an incredible amount of toughness, and that’s what it takes,” Murray said. “If you’re going to win a World Championship, that is a pre-requisite, that’s a requirement. You have to be tough.

“I think Kody Lostroh has got the goods.”

Sunday afternoon, Murray was again behind the chutes, just as he was Friday night, and this time he visited with Lostroh during the fifth flight.

He asked how Lostroh’s arm and shoulder felt and, according to Murray, the current leader in the world standings answered “great” both times.

Murray also noted that Lostroh appeared calm, cool and collected during their brief visit. And he could not have looked any better than he did in Round 3.

“I told somebody last night, if you were a photographer taking pictures of Kody Lostroh riding a bull, it doesn’t matter when you push the button,” Murray said. “You can push it at any time and you’re going to get a perfect picture.”

He later added, “If you were going to draw a picture of a perfect bull rider in all the different positions and poses that a bull strikes, Kody Lostroh’s perfect in every one of them.”

Lostroh, who Murray said is “still the odds on favorite to win it this year,” is now just five rounds from capping off a perfect season.
 
The 2009 PBR World Finals continues with Round 4 on Thursday night at the Thomas & Mack Center at 6 p.m. PT.

Hear the Podcast HereListen to today's "The Final Word" with Ty Murray

—by Keith Ryan Cartwright


53 Comments
  • chadro
    November 6, 2009
    Linky,
    I think you are right. I watched Kody get interviewed and he is pretty quiet and JB's got on a funny lookin hat and always smilin. I imagine thats why they like him, cause he's ''interesting'' to see.
    I hope Kody wins it. He's a cl!@#ic cowboy and has bad !@# style!
  • fmathes
    November 5, 2009
    all the PBR riders are very good at this sport, you can bet who ever ends up on top earned it weather it is my favorte (JB)or someone else.hope everyone has a safe ride
  • Linky
    November 5, 2009
    Conroversy makes the best TV...Maybe thats why JW starts all this "stuff". He's entilted to his opinon as is everyone else....I do believe that Chris Shivers should have been offered a reride as his bull stumbled more that JB"s but...We all know that Kody will rise to the top as he is the best..JB probably gets more air time because he is a better "interview" and alway has something to say...Where Kody is more quiet and focused on his riding....But remember the the winning is not about the face time on TV but about the talent when riding...Kody is a better rider and is doing things smart...pooh to JW if he don"t like it....
  • chadro
    November 5, 2009
    Honestly, I don't think the judges can be bribed, because like I said earlier, the rider still has to make an 8 second, qualified ride. I'm not sayin they don't make questionable calls, but being a judge, you also have a duty to be morally correct. I've never seen a judge that was just rolling in money either, so if they are being bribed, they hide it well.
  • poppacakes
    November 5, 2009
    I believe JW sets up much of the controversy with his sarcastic comments. Having been there
    some 50 years ago. It is an 8 second ride and to stay on top or better yet stay aboard for
    the required time without a slap is what counts. kody seems to have a perfect balance that JB does does not have. Bothe stay on their 8 seconts. How pretty is important and does make or break the
    bulls performane picture some what. 5 more rounds and lots more controversy I am sure. PBR
    has done a tremendous job and will continue to improve with time. As Ty says the bulls do what
    they do, not knowing the rider and cannot read the stats. Its up to the rider to get what he
    can out of the bull for the 8 sec ride. GO PBR
  • fmathes
    November 5, 2009
    if i was as tired of hearing and watching all about JB or anybody else as for as that consern i would turn the chanel because your not going to be satisfide unless every thing come out just the way YOU THINK IT SHOULDif you cant say something nice about someone dont say anything just enjoy the parts you like
  • babber
    November 5, 2009
    FIRST AND FORMOST, I HOPE AND PRAY FOR ALL THE RIDERS TO BE SAFE...

    AS WE ALL KNOW THE JUDGES MAKE OR BREAK A RIDERS SCORE....NO MATTER HOW U SLICE THE PIE
    THAT'S THE FACTS OF IT... CAN THEY OR R THEY EVER BRIBED?????????? ONLY THEY KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.

    I'M A HUGH KODY LOSTROH FAN....MET HIM IN RAPID CITY AND HE'S AN OUTSTANDING YOUNG MAN.......
    BUT I DON'T DISLIKE OR PUT DOWN THE OTHER RIDERS...

    AS FOR JB MAUNEY ,PLEASE GIVE THE GUY A BREAK.....

    NO MATTER HOW MUCH U ALL GRIPE AND GRUMBLE,,,,,,,, WHAT WILL BE,WILL BE.

  • chadro
    November 4, 2009
    One other thing, like I said, I'm cheering for Kody, but I have to point out one thing, not as a JB fan, but as an old bull rider. If it were true that JB was getting "special treatment" every time he rides?? Well, you still gotta stay on them for 8 seconds in order to get that treatment.
  • chadro
    November 4, 2009
    Arguement?? I wasn't arguing and when I say at the top, I'm not necessarilly talking about being first. Could be top 5, could be top 10. WHATEVER. I am getting SOOO sick of hearing people talk about JB getting special treatment. That is crap!! I agree he must act like a little kid, but he rides good. I hope Kody wins it, but all that about him getting breaks and someone else getting hosed so that JB could get a "break?" That's just stupid.
    Another thing, "Kody has the best form since Jim Sharp"??? The best form as far as i'm concern would be in the middle of one and on top of them at the whistle.
  • bigsmith13
    November 4, 2009
    JB is not at the top; he is currently second in the world. So I am not sure I understand your argument. I am sure that JB is a good guy. I think the reason some people are turned off by him is the fact that, fair or unfair, he gets A LOT of breaks. LJ Jenkins is one of my favorite riders, and he has been hosed twice because of unwarranted re-rides in favor of JB. That kind of turns people against JB.

    This article was about Kody Lostroh, though, right? The guy has the best form since Jim Sharp, and appears to be a real stand up guy. I for one sure hope he can maintain or extend his lead and win this thing, already!
  • chadro
    November 4, 2009
    I think JB gets a lot of recognition, positive and negative, cause he's at the top. Its tough bein at the top. That's why a guy has to mind his P's and Q's. If Michael Jordan would have been a jerk, people wouldn't have loved him like they did. He'd have been just another really good player.
  • BullRidingIsArt
    November 4, 2009
    JB fans listen to the unfair JB degrading put down week in and week out from yes the Kody and Marchi fans. I repeat ..it must be the great composition from JB that you guys can't handle and must complain about. You complain about everything. You put down and degrade JB, degrade and put down the PBR judges, put down and degrade the PBR organization, and now put down Keith's writing and interviews...?? Where have you received so many educated degrees that provide you with more expertise that these experts in thier fields?
    If I want to cheer for JB I'll cheer for JB. He needs positive reinforcement with so many negative comments. No other rider is talked about with such ugliness. As Keith says "he is honest and a real person" and he knows him very well. Why would any of you wnat to degrade this remarkable young man. It needs to stop.
    Go!!!JB WIN THE WORLD!!!!!!!!
  • chadro
    November 4, 2009
    I agree, the cream rises to the top, that's what got all the riders to the finals, but I guarantee, to win the finals, you not only gotta ride good, but you HAVE to be damn lucky!!
  • chadro
    November 4, 2009
    BullridingisArt:
    I don't think that the comments on this deal are gonna affect JB whatsoever. "Destroy" him. Come on...
  • firefly65
    November 4, 2009
    I hope I don't insult anyone, as you might have guessed from my user name I am 65 yrs. young, and have been a fan of bull riding and rodeo from the time I was just a sprout. I worked the shutes and pens for more than a few rodeos. I was never a contestant, but I've always been a fan. One thing I began to realize very young was, it seemed to me the big names always got the better score no matter how they rode. I don't think this will ever change, until they find a better way to score the riders, a way to remove the human element from the system. I am not saying it's rigged or crooked but it's based on the opinion of four people, and from the apearence there is always one or two judges it seems to take forever to make up there minds. Those are the one's commited to the honor that was bestowed Upon then. To Judge fairly and unbiased.
  • Harry Travis
    November 4, 2009
    I for one am so sick of hearing JB,JB, JB, he isn't the only rider in the PBR but he sure gets the micraphone stuck in his face more than anyone else. He has to be interviewed two or three times a program or the camera is on him.
    I think Chris Shivers got the shaft with his bull and JB got the gold again. This is the third time the judges have given JB the best. L.J. Jenkins was given the shaft twice just so JB could win and I am sick of the judges giving the rounds to him or whatever.
    Way to go Koty, I was sure proud you rode your for you wouldn't have got a reride.
  • webpbr
    November 4, 2009
    Twiggy - I did not say that there was a "fix" and if anybody does, they are flat out wrong. What I am saying is, JB has gotten the "luck", "breaks" or how ever you want to put it and it is frustrating. Some of these comments may be out of frustration, not out of a deap seated "hate" for JB. Also, JB just happens to be the one that was involved in and benefited the most from the two most controversial calls this year (San Antonio and Reno). Again, not saying anything about him, but the calls. I would like to think that the one that rides the best, wins, but that is not always the case. Keith just wrote an article about "If the finals ends today, JB would be the champion", which is true. Both Kody and JB have rode their bulls, done their jobs, but because of Kody's bull being a bad draw, he would lose (Kody's scores over his bulls has actually been slightly higher). Therefore, the best rider was not determined by how the riders performed, but by "the luck of the draw". We still have 5 rounds, so we will see, if the saying is true.
  • Twiggy
    November 4, 2009
    Webpbr, I wasn't at the first "draw" for the opening round of the finals, but I've read that it was a true draw. Fans got to come up on stage and draw the bulls for the riders. So whether it be fate, luck, or devine intervention, JB got Chester & Kody got Red Kat. One can play with the mathematics til they turn blue, but I personaly don't see anyway their could have been a "fix" involved.

    As my mom always said, "the cream will rise to the top", and the one who rides the best at the finals will win.

    Praying for safety for all involved.

    Twiggy
  • webpbr
    November 4, 2009
    BullRidingisArt - Where are your stats that it is mostly Kody fans complaining about JB.
    There are also Marchi fans and fans of other riders. The most vocal, against JB, has been 2tscowgirl and she is a Marchi fan and has not written anything on this article. Why do you feel it necessay to come on here and condem Kody fans, just because you don't like what is being said by a few, none of which is that bad.

    I think some of these comments are from frustration that JB is getting some breaks (not that anybody is cheating). What is the mathematical chance that JB's name is drawn and he get's Chester (the bull he wanted all along)? What is the mathematical chance that Kody's name is drawn and he gets Red Kat, the worst bull out of all the bulls in the finals. JB does his job, Kody does his job, but Kody's bull is so bad, that he doesn't have a chance to get round points, which is the difference in the standings as of now. Plus JB got a higher score than Josh, in the first round, and most people don't think his ride was better. JB gets a reride, which he deserved, but still a break non the less. The point is, with the race this tight, tempers will flare.

    Kody and JB are polar opposites, in just about everything. I think, in general, the fans that follow both are probably polar opposites as well.

    PS. Why do you feel it nec!@#ay to do your signature cheerleading at the end of your comments on Kody's article? You don't do that on your comments on articles that feature other riders (other than JB).
  • Joan Simpson
    November 4, 2009
    blog111, that is so good.
  • blog111
    November 4, 2009
    Here are the rerides for 2009 so far according to the website:
    JB: 7
    KL: 7
    GM: 6
    VO: 7
    ZB: 4
    RM: 5 taken declined 1
  • BullRidingIsArt
    November 4, 2009
    JB is winning the finals fair and square and remember the judges were chosen by the riders. The riders have faith in the judges to be fair and unbiased and the judges are doing their job. It's the fans with absolutely no real knowledge of judging that are complaining.
    It is very surprising that most the the complaints against JB come from the Kody fans. Is the problem you are jealous or is it anyone that is great competition for Kody is a threat that must be degraded and torn down to nothing. You do a great job of trying to destroy this young man...this honest and real person (quote by Keith)
    JB is loose and free and a great bullrider.
    JB keep your chin up.. many many fans are cheering for you!!!!!
    JB WIN THE WORLD!!!!!!!
  • Grandy
    November 4, 2009
    I agree that JB is good. He is loose and sloppy looking. Watching Sunday night a guy by the name of Gomes had a wonderful ride. He got an 89. whatever. If that had been JB the score would have been much higher. By the way, does anyone have a count on the number of rerides JB has had this year. Let's get that boy in seems to be the mindset. GO Kody
  • GoStroh
    November 3, 2009
    Since this article is about KODY's perfect form, I must agree with Ty that it is "picture perfect"!!! And I hope Kody keeps his perfect form throughout the Finals also and that. . .

    KODY keeps the #1 spot and finishes #1....

    !!!! ** G O K O D Y ** !!!!
  • BullRidingIsArt
    November 3, 2009
    I hope Kody in his perfect syle rides well throughout the final but I hope JB in his loose free style (it's much more exciting to watch) rides great and ends up #1!

    GoGoooooo JB...WIN THE WORLD!!!!!
  • DGLynch
    November 3, 2009
    Glad our friend, Beau Hill is at the Finals again this year--we hope for Kody to Git 'er Done, but would love to see a close race!! Stick it on 'em, boys!!!
  • DGLynch
    November 3, 2009
    Wish my bride & I were there again, this year! So nice to meet more of "The Boys" at Cowboy Church, & see all the glitz & all.
  • vodstraw
    November 3, 2009
    Re the conspiracy theory, I sometimes think the breaks seem to go a certain way....but on the other hand, am I correct in my understanding that the riders selected (voted to determine)the judges for the PBR finals???
  • FlashOBlue
    November 3, 2009
    This is to rockhead: WE're all tired of hearing about JB. Go to the Mr. Las Vegas article and read that so we can get on to other topics.

    chadro: thanks, that helps!
  • chadro
    November 3, 2009
    FlashOblue. Sorry, I'm in the question answering mood...
    When they talk about making corrections, what they are saying in a way, is if the correction wasn't made, the guy would of gotten bucked off. And you are right. A rider won't be as many points if he has to make these corrections, rather that sit in the middle of one and ride him perfectly.
    As for "welly" bulls. When bull is welly, that is something you can't control, its like you are fighting against a strange vacuum if can imagine this, and in a sense the whole ride is correction is correction just to stay in the right place. Welly bulls are considered dirty. They are no fun to ride, because of that.
    Hate to sound like a know it all, but I hope that helps.
  • chadro
    November 3, 2009
    Webpbr. To answer your question, are there schools for judges? Yes, there are. But they are more like seminars. In fact, they are called judging seminars. I've never been to one, so I can't say exactly what they teach and I don't think they are mandatory, meaning that, to be a judge, in the pbr at least, I don't THINK you have to go to one to be a judge although it sure might help a few! ha ha!
  • blog111
    November 3, 2009
    All this talk about style- I agree Kody has one of the best if not THE best out there, but the highest score in the PBR was Renato Nunes flopping around like a rubber-band man on Chicken On a Chain... I don't think they give many "in control" points, it just makes the Bulls look too easy. I'm amazed anyone can ride like some of those guys do, seems like their arms would come right off!
  • rockhead
    November 3, 2009
    Iam getting sick of JB this and JB that myself ! Listen TY if JB is so good then hoes come he is in second place ? He is a good rider no doubt but he can,t hold a candle to Kody !!!!!!!!!!
  • smartypants
    November 3, 2009
    I don't believe in a conspiracy among the judges either. I thing the PBR is too young for elements of that sort to have gotten in. But it has happened so many times that JB got breaks that the others have not. Mistakes going his way.
    Homer299: Don't forget that Kostroh gets extra points because the judges like "the way he looks on the back of the bull" So you can't say that he is cheated from points because of his style. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Kostroh. I know his is a great bullrider and seems to be quite a gentleman. You notice who it was that went to the other to congratulate him on the good ride. It wasn't JB.
  • ancientpbrfan
    November 3, 2009
    When Ty refers to Kody's style, form and mechanics, I think he's saying that in a perfect world of bullriding, that's the way it would be done .... nothing said about JB, Marchi, etc., not having JB does often look like he's "flopping around" on his bull, that's his style. We are all surely aware that it would be pretty dull and boring if every bullrider had the same style. Look at Chris Shivers (and he is still my favorite at "dressing up" a bull). He has the ability to look flashy, ride well, and still make his bull look its best! And Ty has also made that comment.

    Speaking of "dressing up", Chelsea and Ty are a pretty good example of that on DWTS! lol Enjoyed every second of that.
  • GoStroh
    November 3, 2009
    WAY TO GO KODY!!! Kody was done so well in the Finals. I really hope he continues riding all through the Finals and wins the World Championship buckle!!!

    Kody - I know you can do it!!!

    ! ! ! ! ** G O K O D Y ** ! ! ! !
  • FlashOBlue
    November 3, 2009
    I've always wondered what the TV announcers mean when they say, "Look at that correction. He was out of form x many times, but wow! he made those corrections!"

    It seems to me that if a rider gets "out of form" that should be a deduction, yet riders are scored higher when they "get out of the well" and make a correction!

    Kody doesn't have to make many corrections because he doesn't get out of form, so should he (or riders similar) get bonus points for not getting down in the well?

    I guess I need to go to "Judging" school!
  • Joan Simpson
    November 3, 2009
    Every rider has his own style of riding. Some make it look like the bull is not bucking as hard by riding with very little use of their spurs and legs. Justin McBride and Kody Lostroh are two of those riders.
    The majority of the Brazilians are heavier and really don't move that much on a bull like Marchi and especially Valdiron also Ross Coleman. They are strength riders. Now a smaller or lite weight and very limber rider like Renato, Brian Canter and Pete Farley, which Ty Murray likes very much, they are scrappy and always really moving and spurring as much as they can. The same is with JB. He is always adjusting to each buck of the bull. He also uses his free arm so well. Someone mentioned about the floppy horn incident, I think it was made with JB saying the horn flopped up and hit his hand. Now, I am not arguing at all, so please don't get in a twist. I do know that JW during round 3 the same thing happened to LJ and he said that maybe the rules should think about changing with the horns, because his hand grazed the horn,it wasen't a banana horn. I don't think they will, who knows.
    There are so many styles and of course 50% of the score is the bulls. Some riders are scrappy and some are balance and others are strength. Getting in the well, off to the side, hanging on all are points off for the rider and I am sure there are more. Spurring, especially against the riding hand, just shows the rider has full control and he usually gets extra points for that.
    I am sure all of these fans know all of that and there is a lot more I don't know.
    It doesn't mean you should only ride a certain way to get the riders side of the score high.
  • webpbr
    November 3, 2009
    tomkurowski - Flailing: To move or swing vigorously. It was not meant to be disrepectful, it is an accurate decription of some riding styles. It has nothing to do with spurring. I have seen Kody, Marchi, Zack, Valdiron, Wiley, Chris, Ryan and many others spur without "flailing". Let me state one more time, I do not believe in consiracy therories.
  • Rebelnbobbi
    November 3, 2009
    First let me say ty to Ty Murray for recognizing Kody's dominance in these finals. Great job Kody on your rides. We are fans of many riders but having met Kody at only his 3rd PBR event in NY and that he won that weekend has made us pull extra hard for him. We wish all the riders the best of luck and good health throughout the rest of the finals and look forward to Kody holding the gold buckle at the end.
  • tomkurowski
    November 3, 2009
    Kody keep riding the way you are going. Try not to get caught up in the anything but the moment. You have a great loyal fan base, that is easy to see. You ride with pure clean form and with unargumentable control.

    What makes bullriding fun is how all riders each have their own style and ability to score. I must admit I love some of the expressions to discribe different styles. My favorite so far is "flalling around".
    When a rider has control of his ride then and only then can he make additional actions to increase the score. This "flalling" is called spurring. This may seem flashy to some, but is infact a lot harder than they think. Heck look at Renato, he almost can lay back like a bareback rider, and still covers his ride. Ty Murray made a comment of the pure style Kody has. He has the purfect form (or style) that are the basics to complete a ride. Chest out, chin tucked, over the center of the bull and making adjustments throughout the ride without over compensating or anticipating.

    So lets give up on the conspiricy therory and enjoy the talents each of these very gifted athletes bring to this sport.
  • webpbr
    November 2, 2009
    Twiggy - Thanks for your perspective, and I think most of the time, the best rider does win. I don't believe in "conspiraces" in the PBR. Again, I know that the PBR or other judging is subjective. I also know that in ALL sports, their is sometimes favortism by the judges, refs, umpires, it is human nature. Phil Jackson of the Lakers, just made a comment yesterday about that subject. I am NOT saying that is happening in the finals.

    Regarding riders trying to "dress up" a ride by flalling around, aren't the judges professionals and know the riders styles and know that certain riders do this on almost any bull? Again, what good does it do to have "perfect form" and get out scored by another rider that is exaggerating their body movements? Not trying to start trouble, just trying to understand. I have followed many sports since I was a kid. Understanding the "game", the stats, the facts, the rules, and how things work, has always been a pa_ssion of mine.
  • redneckaddict
    November 2, 2009
    Can you tell me how JB gets the rerides that if it is any other of the guys no reride and also is JB the only rider to talk about on the broadcast it is getting so old JB this JB that don't get me wrong I like JB he is a good kid but there is 40 or so more riders and JW if you read this what happened last night JB was going to be leading the world standings last night there was no other option but kodys lead is bigger bad arm or not that kid can ride
  • Twiggy
    November 2, 2009
    Webpbr, I'm gonna throw in a couple of cents worth on one subject you touched on. Yes, there are judging schools, at least in Brazil I know there are. A couple of months ago, PBR Brazil had a big article and pics on their home page of a school that Adriano put on for judging. I know Paulo Crimber and Leandro Mattos, both former riders, have both attended judging schools. As a matter of fact, Leandro was one of the judges at the World Cup.
    Judging, be it in the PBR, or any sport for that matter, is subjective. Anytime there is a human involved, there will be errors. I've been involved in the horse show world for years, and I've seen my fair share of "bad" judges, but when it comes to the big Kuhuna shows, usually only the best judges are used. I think the same holds true in the PBR.
    There will always be conspiracy therories, fans that think "their" rider didn't get a fair shake, but in the end, the cream always rises to the top and more than likely, the man that rides the best will be the winner.

    Twiggy
  • Shannon K
    November 2, 2009
    webpbr: Haha, now I have mental images of the bulls dressing up in Halloween costumes or something. I used the term "dresses up" because I've heard the announcers use it so often; other than spurring and not looking to be in any danger of bucking off, I don't know precisely what else it entails. Like I've said before, I don't have a problem with not being able to enter a particular bull ride into an equation to calculate exactly the score will be. But it's certainly interesting to discuss.
  • homer299
    November 2, 2009
    I think what we see when JB gets higher scoring rides that Kody is perception about how hard the bull is bucking.

    As much as we would like to wish that the judges are machines that can rate a bull independent of the rider, they can't. A loose rider that looks wild and out of control is going to make a bull look much tougher to ride than a rider with perfect form who is always in control. Thus, the bulls of loose riders tend to get higher scores thus the overall ride is scored higher. Renato Nunes is another example…in most of his rides, his bull’s score exceeds its career average score…That’s because Renato makes every bull look like it’s nearly unridable.

    In my day, guys like Jim Sharp and G-man made bulls look so easy, that they were constantly “cheated” out of points. As Ty Murray said a few weeks ago, “Jim Sharp would have won several more world titles over the years if he didn’t make all of his bulls look so easy.”

    So bottom line is that the judges use how hard the bull bucks as the basis for the score. Guys like JB just make their bulls look tougher to ride, and Kody makes his bulls look easy…Thus with all things being equal, Kody will tend to get lower scores…It’s just human nature.
  • webpbr
    November 2, 2009
    SL - I understand that the judging is subjective. However, is there a "judging school" they go to and in the school or their training, they say "for each spur it is this many points" "if the guy is in the center of the bull, it is this many points", or things like that. Do they start at 0 and go from there?

    Shannon K - So when you say "dresses up", is it the bull or bull rider that has to wear a dress to get points? LOL. Other than spurring, what do you do to "dress up" the bull? I understand that some riders will try and make the bull look more difficult than it is by moving their body in a more exaggerated way, but then is that actually perfect form? Should you be scored higher for that?
  • SL
    November 2, 2009
    Very good question, webpbr. It's kind of like the last couple of years when Marchi fans kept being told that his scores weren't as high because "he's so strong, he makes the bulls look too easy". Huh?

    Unfortunately, I think it comes down to the same thing it does with all scored sports: It's all subjective.
  • Shannon K
    November 2, 2009
    webpbr: That's a good question, and I hope someone more knowledgeable is able to answer it. I wonder whether some of the difference isn't that JB "dresses up" the rides more, spurring big? I'd have to go back and watch some clips to see how much of that he's done so far at the finals, though.
  • webpbr
    November 2, 2009
    Kody is the definition of cla_ss. Looking forward to talking to him again this week.

    Maybe someone, that is an expert in judging and scoring, can help me out. If Kody is picture perfect in the way he rides a bull and this article says, he was perfect this weekend in riding his bulls, then why is his scores over the bull only a total of .25 over JB's rides this weekend? Both Kody and JB rode all 3 bulls, both were scored over their bulls on all 3 rides. Kody's total, for the 3 rides is 5.25 (1.00, 2.25, 2.00)over the bulls and JB's is 5.00 (2.25, 1.25, 1.50) over the bulls. Does perfect technique matter? Is it over rated? How can someone ride that is "loose" and free arm waving and body moving score the same as the person that is sitting over the bull, and in total control the whole time and have "perfect technique"? This is not a dig at JB, it is a legitimate question that I would like to know what judges are looking for.
  • mblack1073
    November 2, 2009
    We are cheering for you,Kody. What a great man you are and so much talent.
  • TWTX
    November 2, 2009
    Being a huge Kody Lostroh fan I really enjoyed this article. "One" of the reasons I like Kody is because of his riding style. He just looks so good on the bulls. I am not an expert in bull riding, but I really prefer Kody's "in control" style compared to a "loose" riding style. JMO..

    I agree that Kody has done everything right and has ridden the very best he or anyone else could do. I just wish he had the bull power in round 1 like all the other riders that would have put his points in the event up at the top where it belongs. But we still have 5 more rounds to go and that will happen!

    Kody - I sure hope you are able to keep that perfect form going for the last 5 rides and get that buckle on Sunday.

    I also enjoyed the segment on Kody and the Riding High Ministry on Sunday. Good to know that he has his focus on the thing that is most important.

    GO KODY !!!!
  • Joan Simpson
    November 2, 2009
    Kody, rides with such ease. He reminds me of Justin McBride. I was a fan of Adriano not much of one of Justin but I have to say Justin just rode with the best balance and he did not use his spurs that much. He just rode with so much balance and ease and he did not try to out muscle the bull with his strengh that much. I see that in the way Kody rides.
    JB and Kody are excellent bull riders and have made the year exciting by watching them.
    I feel so bad for Guilherme because he is usually so consistant. He will get it back on track but with Kody and JB it might be too late. I hope he comes back strong on the second part of the finals. Guilherme and his fellow Brazilians are absolutely the nicest, polite and the greatest to their fans. Adriano has been such a good amb!@#ador for them and the PBR.

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